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Tim P. Vos

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All of the citations are to universities he studied or worked at. I did not find much else when I searched. 🄻 🄰 16:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Buccaneers–Eagles rivalry

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Non-notable rivalry of two teams that have only played each other 24 times since 1977. Frankly I've never heard of this even being called a rivalry between these two teams. Draftification was objected to, and seems to be largely based on one article writer's opinion. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Joshua Hagen

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Cannot find independent WP:SIGCOV for this Canadian judoka to pass WP:NSPORT; all sources appear to be trivial mentions or non-independent bios/interviews. Being a CBC commentator on the Olympics does not on its own generate notability. If there are sources I missed in my WP:BEFORE please ping me. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Minerva Project

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The notability seems redundant with Minerva University. 🄻 🄰 15:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Doom Patrol enemies

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This is a mostly unsourced spin off from the Doom Patrol article. Wikipedia implores us to not immediately split articles if the new article would meet neither the general notability criteria nor the specific notability criteria for their topic. There is nothing here to preserve that isn't covered at the main article (not to mention other villain group articles like Brotherhood of Evil or Brotherhood of Dada). The target article is also missing sources but at least provides a valid redirect target. Jontesta (talk) 18:12, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with the enemies section of Doom Patrol in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 23:22, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Charlton Media Group

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This company is not notable and it lacks enough credible sources to justify its own page. Eric Schucht (talk) 15:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Genocide in the Hebrew Bible

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Per prior discussion(s) on article talk (which have stalled out for several weeks), this article is essentially a largely OVERLAP’d POVFORK with serious neutrality issues. The discussion of this topic is already extensively covered and properly sourced in articles such as War in the Hebrew Bible, The Bible and violence, and Judaism and violence; as is the modern day relevance of particular passages in Amalek. The contents of these discussions are neither so long that they warrant SIZESPLIT, nor are they so notable as to require a page outside their discussions on the relevant pages. Sinclairian (talk) 15:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The American Business Journal

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Topic is not notable. No major news sources have ever referenced this website and all cited sources are press releases. Wiki article feels like self-promotion. Eric Schucht (talk) 15:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Wandering Inn

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The only usable source is its inclusion in a listicle. While that's not nothing, none of the other sources here help notability (unreliable), and I couldn't find much else. I found a single sentence mention in Variety but that is not sigcov. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jimmy Skinner (American football)

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Does not pass WP:GNG. The sources listed in the article do not provide WP:SIGCOV. I did find another source from the Chillicothe Gazette not listed in the article. However, even with that inclusion, I do not believe it would pass. It possibly has WP:OR, as well. Grahaml35 (talk) 14:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Nepal earthquakes

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Fails WP:NEVENT. A google search also doesn't bring up any especially deep coverage. Creator submitted a draft to AFC which I declined on the same basis. Article already says no major damage or casualties were reported. A large portion of the article also fails to discuss the main subject rather, an overview of Himalaya tectonics. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 14:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article provides valuable information about the event, highlighting its importance of Himalayan tectonics and seismic activity. While there were no major casualties or damages, the event holds importance in understanding the region's geological behavior. The article goes beyond just reporting the event; it connects it to scientific studies and ongoing discussions about seismic risks in the Himalayas. Such information is crucial for researchers, students, and anyone interested in the region’s geology, making the article a useful and relevant resource for Wikipedia readers. NAUser0001 (talk) 14:13, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pedro Neves (poker player)

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I agree with the previous AFD: Non-notable player, no WP:SIGCOV. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. No WP:SIGCOV, no coverage outside niche press. The article appears to be more about the tournament than the article subject. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2024 World Series of Poker. Notable only in connection with WP:ONEEVENT. ~ A412 ^talk! 16:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sadiq Kirmani

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Non-notable cricketer; Played only two LA matches across his whole career (no FC or international matches played), and none in this list of domestic tournaments maintained by WikiProject Cricket. AmateurHi$torian (talk) 13:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Star Wars Republic Commando (series)

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Fails WP:GNG. No significant coverage for this series or "multimedia project". Even if you see this as a list, it seems to fail WP:NLIST. Only thing I found were articles about a Battlefront 2 update adding a Republic Commando character to the multiplayer mode: [1], [2]. They don't imply that Battlefront 2 is part of the Republic Commando series. Suggesting merge/redirect to Star Wars: Republic Commando#Sequels. Mika1h (talk) 12:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Erich Volschenk

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Normally published, commercially employed (non-academia) zoologist with a number of described taxa. There is nothing here that says encyclopedic notability - no WP:GNG coverage, no honours or prestigious positions, no recognized exceptional contributions to the field. A productive arachnologist but not encyclopia material. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 12:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comparison of portable media players

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Previously PROD'd with this rationale: Out of date article, tagged as such for over 14 years, not revised substantially in years, and full of information with no verifiable importance or correctness. WP:NOTGUIDE suggests that Wikipedia is not a guide for consumer product information. Restored to draft on request, then moved to main article space with no changes. I concur with the PROD rationale that this article is not within the bounds of Wikipedia. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Vorontsov

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Follow-up to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khilkov (recently unanimously deleted). Relies on WP:ONESOURCE, russianartdealer.com, which is a WP:SPS; WP:OR; fails WP:GNG. Rule of thumb: if a Russian noble family claims descent from Rurik (or in this case "a Varangian nobleman named Šimon") without a source, that's a red flag. (No objection to keeping Category:Vorontsov family for now; this "article" just adds nothing of value). NLeeuw (talk) 11:24, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. There are articles about the family in Britannica (1911), Brockhaus & Efron and Nordisk familjebok and that seems enough to pass GNG, although I am somewhat concerned about the fact that all the above articles have a very short introduction about the family in general, and then continue with individual biographies. In any case, they also contain some references, which could be used to expand the article. For example: The family has published very extensive archives: [3] and there seems to be a book about the family: Ogarkov (1892) Vorontsovy. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 13:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguese Newfoundland

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Nonsense article building a mountain out of conjecture. There is no evidence f Portuguese Newfoundland actually being a thing, let alone one warranting an entire article. See the similarly WP:PROFRINGE Luso–Danish expedition to North America AFD for similar discussions, but the editor creating these articles needs to stop adding fringe theories to Wikipedia in a way that looks like historical fact. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 11:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The article is based on well-regarded sources, including Bailey Diffie’s Foundations of the Portuguese Empire, 1415–1580 and the Dictionary of Canadian Biography entry on Gaspar Corte-Real. Both sources explicitly discuss Portuguese claims and potential activity in Newfoundland during the early 16th century. These are not fringe sources but are widely recognized by scholars in the field of Portuguese maritime history.

It is stated in the book that Portugal had claims over the region, and brought goods and slaves from it. Jaozinhoanaozinho (talk) 11:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're conflating "Portuguese claims" and "potential Portuguese activity" both here and in the article, which is why there's a WP:PROFRINGE issue at play. I don't think anyone is denying Portuguese interest or claims. Just because there are potential actvities doesn't mean we can assume there are for the purposes of an article. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 11:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I didn’t make myself clear, in Bailey Diffie’s book it’s clearly mentioned that King Manuel granted formal licenses to explorers like João Fernandes Lavrador and Gaspar Corte-Real to discover and claim land with the promise of rewards. It’s also well mentioned that Portugal had colonial activity, which I’ve mentioned before. Jaozinhoanaozinho (talk) 12:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You cannot extrapolate that into a whole article about Portuguese Newfoundland when the academic consensus isn't there. One source that runs counter to scholarship isn't enough to warrant an entire article about a topic. This is essentially a fork of other articles you've written citing pre-columbian contact fringe sources. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 12:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Van der Bellen family

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Follow-up to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khilkov (recently unanimously deleted). WP:UNSOURCED WP:OR, fails WP:GNG. Rule of thumb: if a Russian noble family claims descent from Rurik without a source, that's a red flag. (No objection to keeping Category:Van der Bellen family for now; this "article" just adds nothing of value). NLeeuw (talk) 11:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Shuvalov

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Follow-up to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khilkov (recently unanimously deleted). WP:GUNREL (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility#genealogy.eu), WP:OR, fails WP:GNG. Rule of thumb: if a Russian noble family claims descent from Rurik without a source, that's a red flag. (No objection to keeping Category:Shuvalov family for now; this "article" just adds nothing of value). NLeeuw (talk) 11:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Romodanovsky family

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Follow-up to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khilkov (recently unanimously deleted). WP:UNSOURCED WP:OR, fails WP:GNG. Rule of thumb: if a Russian noble family claims descent from Rurik without a source, that's a red flag. (No objection to keeping Category:Romodanovsky family for now; this "article" just adds nothing of value). NLeeuw (talk) 11:13, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Obolensky

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Follow-up to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khilkov (recently unanimously deleted). WP:UNSOURCED WP:OR, fails WP:GNG. Rule of thumb: if a Russian noble family claims descent from Rurik without a source, that's a red flag. (No objection to keeping Category:Obolensky family for now; this "article" just adds nothing of value). NLeeuw (talk) 11:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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House of Lobanov-Rostovsky

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Follow-up to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khilkov (recently unanimously deleted). WP:UNSOURCED WP:OR, fails WP:GNG. Rule of thumb: if a Russian noble family claims descent from Rurik without a source, that's a red flag. (No objection to keeping Category:Lobanov-Rostovsky family for now; this "article" just adds nothing of value). NLeeuw (talk) 11:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hemanta Debbarma

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The article fails WP:GNG and does not meet the criteria outlined in WP:NPOL. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 11:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Philippine jade culture

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This article looks like a POV-pushing heap of WP:OR (see esp. the UNESCO section). I found zero reliable sources using the term "Philippine jade culture" on Google Scholar, a normal web search, or a Wikipedia Library EBSCO search [4]. Google Books turns up only self-published books by someone called "J.G. Cheock" [5]. Most sources cited in the article are news (Taiwan Times, Taiwan News) or primary (UNESCO), and given the apparent dispute between the two I don't think these can be considered INDEPENDENT. I will work to verify the other offline sources, but what I've got thus far is not promising. Toadspike [Talk] 10:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The article was mostly written by User:Spitmyrno and User:Gibedapse. Based on their contribs, both are SPAs. Toadspike [Talk] 10:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Brookmount Gold

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References are mostly primary or profiles. Not meeting WP:ORG or WP:GNG. - The9Man ^Talk 10:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:NORG and poor sourcing. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 12:28, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I had a look to see if there was anything missing in the way of reliable sources that might improve this and found nothing that wasn't very niche. Not sufficient for WP:ORG. Simonm223 (talk)

Albanian Visual Arts Network

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Subject fails GNG and NCORP for not having significant coverage from independent reliable sources and not merely mentioned for verification. Sources on the article are not reliable. Cassiopeia talk 09:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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MaNaDr

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A previous article was deleted at AFD a year ago. The present article was created a few months ago, covering recent action against the firm by the Singapore Ministry of Health. Searches find this Straits Times item concerning other providers' reactions to that situations (and perhaps Healthcare_in_Singapore#Private_healthcare should be extended to cover telehealth). However WP:CORP indicates that regulatory actions and their coverage are not in themselves indicative of notability of a particular firm, so it seems appropriate to bring this to AFD as it doesn't seem there is enough in-depth coverage to overturn the previous deletion consensus. AllyD (talk) 09:29, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Clare Siobhan

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Does not seem to meet WP:NBIO or WP:GNG, only mention in a to me seemingly reliable publication is a mention of three sentences. Red Bull source seems to be an interview, probably not intellectually independent. AlexandraAVX (talk) 09:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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1996 Dutch Figure Skating Championships

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I am also nominating the following related pages:

Non-notable figure skating competition. Recommend deletion or redirect to Dutch Figure Skating Championships. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:28, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Here is my problem with these stand-alone articles. All four disciplines are often not contested. There are often not enough competitors to award a bronze medal, and in some cases, even a silver medal. Many of these competitions featured no more than two or three participants. And most of the competitors who are listed are redlinked or unlinked (ie. themselves not notable). The competition results and scores are included (or should be included) on a skaters' individual article. The medal results are included on the parent article (in this case, Dutch Figure Skating Championships). But these nations with small national championships are just not worth trying to maintain individual articles for each competition. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:29, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect all. Such articles create huge fragmentation and repeat data that we need and already carry, with data that we do not need to carry as a general encyclopedia. The extra data is the domain of sport databases. Figure skating is not a big sport in the Netherlands. Speed skating is. Even there, where we could justify the annual spinoffs, we suffer from too much data and too little writeup. gidonb (talk) 04:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as it seems like most of these bundled nominations have been turned into Redirects.
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Liz, you can redirect all of these articles. I included that as an option in the original nomination, and the end result is the same. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Ale Conners of London

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Fails WP:LISTN as not having received attention as a group. An individual appointment sometimes gets a mention in a different source (though most of these aren't independent), but that's about it. Fram (talk) 08:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for taking the time to look for additional mentions and references on this subject. I look forward to receiving the results of the deletion discussion, and will of course be happy with whatever decision the group comes to. Tippylegend (talk) 11:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: as WP:INDISCRIMINATE, there's no encyclopedic information here that isn't on the article for Ale conner. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 09:08, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kambala Srinivas Rao

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The article fails to meet WP:GNG, WP:BIO or even WP:NPOL due to a lack of reliable, independent sources providing significant coverage. The subject's activities, while notable within his community, lack documented national or regional impact, and the article has a promotional tone. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 07:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No evidence of notability (of any flavour), just promotion. A7-speedied, and immediately recreated by likely COI editor. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Poor sources on the page with no notable coverage on the subject. Per nom fails WP:NPOL. The subject does not seem to warrant a biographical page because of no significant, interesting, or unusual enough coverage to deserve attention or to be recorded as Politician, and activist. RangersRus (talk) 09:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the feedback. I would like to address the concerns:

1.Notability (WP:NPOL):

Kambala Srinivas Rao is the President of *Vishwa Hindu Dharma Parirakshana* and joined the BJP in December 2024, a move covered by reliable sources such as OneIndia, The Hans India*, and The New Indian Express. His contributions include cultural preservation and strengthening BJP's presence in East Godavari, which demonstrates political significance.

2. Reliable Sources:

["Vishwa Hindu Dharma Parirakshana president Kambala Srinivasa Rao joins BJP"](https://www.oneindia.com/india/vhdp-rama-sena-president-kambala-srinivasa-rao-joins-bjp-party-strengthens-itself-in-the-rajahmundr-4025853.html)

Rama Sena Leader Kambala Joins BJP"](https://www.thehansindia.com/andhra-pradesh/rama-sena-leader-kambala-joins-bjp-932535)

["Kambala Srinivas Rao’s initiatives highlighted in BJP strengthening"](https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra-pradesh/2024/Dec/26/rahul-gandhi-used-to-undermine-india-on-foreign-soil-mp-daggubati-purandeswari)

3. Significance:

His community-focused efforts in temple infrastructure and cultural preservation add to his profile as a social activist.

Given the above, I believe the article meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria (WP:NPOL, WP:GNG). I am open to suggestions for improving the page help out to publish my article without any error Durgaprasadpetla (talk) 11:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Lionel Luthor

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I know this article is GA, but everything are cited as primary sources. Did WP:BEFORE, but found zero WP:SIGCOV. A source for ex like this [6] isn't. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 06:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The Man from Krypton, p. 85, has a relevant though brief characterization of Lionel Luthor, and likewise with The Smallville Chronicles. "Enter the Aleph: Superhero Worlds and Hypertime Realities" interestingly has a comparison to Samson of all people. Most importantly, does anyone have access to "The Role of Parents in the Processing of Adolescent Trauma in Smallville"? That sounds pretty promising. Daranios (talk) 15:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Found it, here. This paper does have a lot of plot summary on Lionel Luthor, but also evaluation of his role, although mostly in relation to Lex Luthor (Smallville). Daranios (talk) 16:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thajuddin

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Article on certain topic "Thauddin" about the conversion of a Hindu king to Islam - Only found in conspiracy theories and low quality news reports by journalists. Usually supported by substandard books and research papers (all them by Muslim authors)

{{Db-hoax}} JamesMdp (talk) 06:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I can't find anything noteworthy (or indeed much at all) in Google Books. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 14:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Derek_Brenzcewski

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Reality TV star, one show only. Fails WP:BIO SallyRenee (talk) 06:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No sign of WP:GNG besides two pieces from a local Patch newspaper. The show doesn’t even have a page here, and that too doesn’t seem notable enough. Delete. Jordano^5³ 13:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rulers of the Chera dynasty

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Pure vandalism and blatant hoaxes {{Db-hoax}} JamesMdp (talk) 06:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Keep No elaboration on the nominator's rationale to justify deletion. Also, deletion is not clean up. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 08:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Speedy keep: Rationale/reason by nominator doesn't make sense to delete it. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 12:29, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Social Democratic Municipalist Party

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Only base on one source. The other sources I found here is this [[7]] mention trivially, same here [8] and the other sources I found on google book, google news yield nothing. Thus failing WP:GNG or any WP:SNG. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 05:25, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Delete only reference is the request for approval from the government being denied. Not notable enough. Marleeashton (talk) 07:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Vallabhaneni Maheedhar

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A WP:BEFORE search yields results from databases, LinkedIn, Facebook, Amazon, and other unreliable sources. The subject fails to meet under WP:NACTOR and WP:FILMMAKER. Also, there is no indication of meeting WP:SIGCOV. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Janski_Beeeats

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Does not meet notability requirements for WP:MUSICBIO or WP:CREATIVE. Further notes: 750 monthly listeners on spotify, 3014 followers on soundcloud, 6.8k followers on facebook, 1.8 subscribers on youtube, 1543 followers on instagram, 126 followers on X. Can't find record of artist in french music charts. One album on an indie label (Police Records) second album 'Holiday' appears to be self published via Distrokid. One song on a movie soundtrack (Missions, 2017). Award mentioned was won at a music fesitval - no mention of these awards on that festival's wikipedia page, so it doesn't seem to meet the 'major music award' requirement. Real name: Jean-Sébastien Vermalle (573 monthly listeners on spotify)- appears to have details on imbd but little other internet coverage. SallyRenee (talk) 05:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Debayan Dasgupta

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Scientist without a significant publication record or any awards. (There are others with the same name who are more notable.) The only possible claims would be based upon founding the company Theranautilus, but I am unclear whether that page itself passes notability. They have been around for too long for draftification, so AfD discussion is appropriate. Ldm1954 (talk) 08:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yeah. I think its ok to delete it. Xortical (talk) 09:54, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: From my analysis, it fails WP:NACADEMIC due to insufficient SIGCOV. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 12:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The North American Discworld Convention

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WP:BEFORE only showed unreliable sources such as blogs and fan sites, or other passing mentions. This does not have reliable secondary sources to achieve WP:SIGCOV. Jontesta (talk) 00:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Nothing in Gnews, nothing in RS that I can find. Sounds interesting, but no RS we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 01:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: Is there coverage of the Discworld fandom as a whole? If so, then we might be able to justify creating a section or subsection (like under reception?) in the main Discworld article that could briefly cover the fandom and the various conventions like this one. I admittedly am not seeing a huge ton of sources, but perhaps someone else could have better luck? (I'm also not delving super deep as far as searching goes). I did find this one about the UK convention and this one about general convention appearances though, though. And this one that's paywalled but mentions a Pratchett superfan. They're all by The Guardian so it's not a huge depth of coverage, but it's a start. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 15:23, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I wasn't really able to find a whole lot - there is some light mention of the conventions, so I think we could probably justify a few short lines. My recommendation is to retitle the critical reception section to just "reception" and include a sentence or two about the conventions. The conventions are a good example of fan reception, so inclusion there wouldn't be too out of the question. I just don't think that we need more than a sentence or so. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 16:25, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nande Mabala

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Sockpuppets and likely LOUTSOCK IPs are repeatedly eliminating a redirect, so instead of edit warring I am seeking an AfD consensus to establish a redirect to Miss South Africa 2023. The subject is not a pageant winner, and any notability she has appears to be WP:BLP1E for her placing in that pageant; the coverage that exists is WP:ROUTINE and there is no WP:SIGCOV for a WP:GNG pass. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:47, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~: Why redirect in the first place? Edit warring and sock are not ground for deletion. Deal with the users and IP adequately. I also don't think WP:BLP1E applies here. The subject is a model, just like how a musician can be a one hit wonder. She is clearly notable and discussed in multiple RS, meaning she pass WP:GNG. A simple Google search is enough, I'm not gonna try to reference the whole internet here. dxneo (talk) 11:51, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you supply the specific sources you believe constitute SIGCOV in independent, reliable sources to pass GNG? I didn’t find any in my BEFORE, just mentions of her pageant career that didn’t go into substantial depth. P.S. Editor disagreements over a redirect are indeed a valid reason for an AfD discussion per WP:BLAR. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:16, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great! I think I'll be back here on the 30th. Can't perform a full search rn, but she did headline multiple RS. Ciao! dxneo (talk) 12:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I have seen a lot of secondary reliable source with a significant coverage. I'm wondering how you nominated this article for deletion because what didn't tally with I knew on Wikipedia. [9], [10], [11], [12], [13] and [14] are enough to establish notability, as such it pass GNG [[Special:Contributions 102.91.92.110 (talk) 15:10, 26 December 2024 (UTC) — 102.91.92.110 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Nope, your first, second, and fourth sources are tabloid coverage, and per WP:SBST, tabloid journalism is not significant coverage. The third source is a Q&A interview and thus a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE. The fifth source is not an journalistically independent publication; it's a local booster/hotel room magazine. The sixth source, while not a Q&A, is composed almost entirely of quotes from Mabala and appears to based solely on an interview with her and is thus also a primary source. We're not at the point of WP:SIGCOV to meet WP:GNG yet. By the way, since this is the first time this IP address has edited Wikipedia, can I ask what accounts you've previously used? Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think we need to discuss this "interview is a primary source" thing, because that's where information normally comes from. If another publication quotes that interview, no one would say it's "primary". If the interview was published by a reliable source, then it's most definitely reliable. dxneo (talk) 19:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not on my laptop so not going to type a full reply, but between this recent long discussion thread and WP:INTERVIEWS, there’s a robust consensus that merely being interviewed does not make one notable and that any content that is entirely or almost entirely dependent on an interview with the subject is not independent. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:00, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, I'll comment on the notability of the subject in the next few days. dxneo (talk) 09:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. In addition to the sources mentioned above, there are feature articles about her in the Sowetan, Dispatch, Worcester Standard, Star, and IOL. Plus coverage in the Sunday Times. Sure, a lot of the content is from interviews with Mabala, but these are by no means straight Q&A and are about as hard-hitting as you can expect of journalism about beauty pageants. I doubt that many models would pass WP:GNG if only investigative journalism qualified as secondary sources for the purposes of establishing notability. Jlalbion (talk) 11:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the interest of not appearing to bludgeon the discussion I’ll refrain from further comments in this discussion, other than to say that I reviewed these additional sources in my BEFORE and did not find them to pass the bar of independence (as single source interviews) or of SIGCOV (as tabloid coverage). I don’t edit much on beauty pageants and perhaps there is a local consensus at AfD on sourcing for pageant participants that I’m unaware of, so I’ll let the community decide without further input. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:33, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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David S. Kidder

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This article doesn't have enough coverage in multiple reliable sources. As a result, it fails to satisfy WP:SIGCOV and WP:AUTHOR TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 04:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This reads as a resume and fails to establish notability and references are almost all self-published. Marleeashton (talk) 06:08, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: having written some books and started two non-notable companies is not a claim to notability. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 09:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Permanent Revolution (group)

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Defunct minor Trotskyist group. No demonstration of meeting GNG within the article, with sourcing being from self-published sources (mostly their own) so violates WP:ABOUTSELF. Checks on scholar show no notable academic discussion of the group. No likelihood of improvement and no obvious redirect targets.

Delete. Rambling Rambler (talk) 01:25, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge/Redirect to List of Trotskyist internationals#Defunct. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 12:12, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looked at this, problem with this redirect is that there's no reliable evidence they ever became an established "International", just that they had a handful of supporters outside of the UK. Rambling Rambler (talk) 15:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Haven't you just described half of all Trotskyist internationals? :) FWIW, WP:NLIST does not require individual entries in a list to be notable, just the class itself. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 23:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Goldsztajn while that first comment is definitely something I agree with, with this one it's not the lack of notability but the complete lack of any evidence it was effectively organised beyond the UK. There doesn't appear to be any list of national sections elsewhere, so I don't think it meets the definition of even being an international. Rambling Rambler (talk) 13:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In French, I can find this, a translation from the Permanent Revolution group, on the site of their French sympathising group, indicating that 33 members from Great Britain, Ireland, Australia and Sweden were expelled from the LCI. At the end of the statement it indicates that the Australian section of the League (WPA) has joined them, along with members from Sweden and Ireland. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 01:51, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle of Mangal

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The article lacks reliable sources to verify the information presented. Additionally, the battle appears to have limited historical significance and is not widely covered in notable sources, making the article's notability questionable. Article clearly failing WP:GNG and WP:V . Mr.Hanes Talk 04:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Note:Sources were removed previously that have been restored. RangersRus (talk) 09:24, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @RangersRus, but I have removed the Gazetteers Sources as they are considered unreliable as per WP:RAJ. Mr.Hanes Talk 12:29, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the main article Afghan–Sikh Wars or to Hari Singh Nalwa (Battle of Mangal (1821)) as this article lack content to expand. QEnigma talk 11:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oleksandr Roshchynskyi

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Several searches in both English and Ukrainian turned up nothing approaching WP:SIGCOV, including, of course, the sources included in the article itself. Anwegmann (talk) 04:08, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:FOOTYN). Most of the information available online are from sports statistics sites, like which has been referenced in the article from Soccerway ([15]). Plays for a club in the country's 3rd tier. Only 2 appearances and 95 minutes play time in the 2nd tier competition before the club was relegated. WP:RS and WP:IS not available for WP:V. QEnigma talk 08:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NFOOTY doesn't exist anymore! ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of websites with country access banned

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Unsourced unclear list. Was previously draftified, but its creator moved it back without any improvement. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Delete there's a concept here of an interesting article but there are articles that have these broken down by website such as Censorship of Wikipedia or by country like Internet censorship in the United Kingdom. Marleeashton (talk) 06:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This article is not eligible for speedy, unless the creator was a sock. However, this article contains a notable topic. I'd rather see a usable redirect target or have it draftified before committing a !vote. Conyo14 (talk) 07:13, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete We already have articles that contain very similar information (e.g. see Internet censorship, Internet censorship and surveillance by country, Internet censorship and surveillance in [insert various continent names]), and this list - assuming it were complete and sourced - seems like a particularly unhelpful way of actually organising and presenting that information. If it's notable, the way in which country X censors the internet is usually already well covered in the article "Internet censorship in X", and censorship of website Y is usually already well covered in the article "Censorship of Y". We also already have lists for specific countries/websites, like List of websites blocked in Singapore, and even those are a bit of a mess with missing and uncited entries. So having one big 'master list' for some arbitrary and theoretically infinite set of website/country combinations seems like it would both provide little additional value, and would be probably impossible to actually curate and maintain in practice. MCE89 (talk) 08:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Unsourced, unclear inclusion criteria, unclear context and as mentioned by others above this has already covered already in different articles. Ajf773 (talk) 08:21, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the topic is already covered in other articles that are more likely to be the first port of call for readers. Furthermore, this article is completely unsourced and looks quite incomplete, and as MCE89 has sagely noted, would be a nightmare to keep even reasonably current. As an alternative to deletion, I'd support draftification if the creating editor wants to try and develop it in a novel direction that is not immediately apparent from this discussion, and which complements (rather than repeats) existing articles. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 14:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. The information in this incomplete article is already covered on Wikipedia. Since draftify failed, I feel we have no choice but to delete it.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Trump International Hotel Las Vegas Tesla Cybertruck explosion

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The result was speedy keep. Clear consensus to keep the article at this time. There's a separate discussion on the talk page to change the name. Johndavies837 (talk) 09:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC) (non-admin closure)‎[reply]

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Much WP:TOOSOON for an article, WP:LASTING coverage has not been demonstrated and all sources are run-of-the-mill. WP:NOTNEWS as well. E_F⁵ 03:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Unambiguously passes WP:GNG. While we can never know for sure if something will achieve WP:SUSTAINED coverage until it actually does, we can certainly try to make a judgment call about this. In this case, 92,000 google news results and the fact that it's being investigated as a terrorist act suggests to me that this is very likely to achieve WP:SUSTAINED coverage. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:39, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Rename to "2025 Las Vegas Cybertruck explosion", the current title is far too clunky. AlienChex (talk) 03:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Renaming the article is best discussed at Talk:Trump International Hotel Las Vegas Tesla Cybertruck explosion#Requested_move_2_January_2025 –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Passes WP:GNG. Seems likely to be a terrorist attack as well according to sources, which makes me lean towards keep even more. Procyon117 (talk) 03:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

" Seems likely to be" is never a valid reason. Kingturtle = (talk) 05:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Since it is now being investigated as a terrorist attack, it seems like it is capable of sustained coverage. TheBritinator (talk) 03:49, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notable current event, and would be even more notable if not for the New Orleans incident. Passes WP:GNG as others have said. 53 (talk) 03:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into the main article for the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas. CNC33 (. . .talk) 03:57, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep per WP:SNOW. Notable event that is very reliably sourced. Ahri Boy (talk) 04:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Major story with global coverage. This is an ongoing investigation with possible terroristic intent. Deletion discussion is best closed and reopened if needed in two weeks to assess. Thriley (talk) 04:08, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, concur with Thriley, TheBritinator, et al. 42-BRT (talk) 04:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Procyon117, and AhriBoy. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 05:08, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Wikipedia is not a newspaper, we should not be writing articles on every single small event. There's no indication of sustained coverage (compared to the truck ramming in New Orleans, for example), and thus the GNG nor NEVENT is met. If you want to write about breaking news, please use Wikinews, and then if it becomes a story with enduring coverage, we can then create an article on WP for it. --Masem (t) 05:11, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per aboves DeadlyRampage26 (Chat) 05:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for reasons stated above. ShovelandSpade (talk) 05:28, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for reasons stated above. Autarch (talk) 05:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Merge back to the hotel / weak delete -- per WP:TOOSOON and WP:NOTNEWS. Currently only appears to pass GNG because of the word Trump (but WP:NOTINHERITED). If it had been any other hotel in Vegas, this would have likely received local coverage only. If this turns out to be a random vehicle fire, then this is a giant nothingburger and would fail WP:LASTING. Only weak because there is a chance that it might be something larger but I don't think policies permit us to make that assumption, because it would open up a can of worms that WP:CRYSTAL was intended to avoid. Merging back into the hotel article is the best action for now. TiggerJay (talk) 05:35, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As previously mentioned! User 200628 (talk) 05:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rename "Trump International Hotel Las Vegas Tesla Cybertruck explosion" is a mouthful. Las Vegas Cybertruck explosion is all we need. Kingturtle = (talk) 05:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming the article is best discussed at Talk:Trump International Hotel Las Vegas Tesla Cybertruck explosion#Requested_move_2_January_2025 –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep due to global coverage per WP:GNG. Deletion is a clear case of WP:RAPID, not even a day has passed since the event, the initial news coverage is still ongoing and you're talking about lasting notability that can't really be proven until further details come out. Nightmares26 (talk) 06:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Even just now there is extensive coverage of event by most major news networks by current references. Expect more to come as further details come out - Imcdc Contact 06:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep ItsNotRSnUN (talk) 06:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep, due to WP:GNG, and like Kingturtle said, possibly rename it to something less of a mouthful such as "2024 Trump Tower Cybertruck explosion" EatingCarBatteries _{(contributions, talk)} 07:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I meant 2025 haha EatingCarBatteries _{(contributions, talk)} 07:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep the deletion is WP:RAPID, wait until investigation concluded. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 08:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The event has received global media coverage. --TadejM ^{my talk} 08:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There is extensive national and international coverage. Whether or whether not this article meet WP:GNG in the future, deleting now is WP:RAPID. In addition this event may or may not be linked to recent other developments. QEnigma talk 09:13, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Can we please stop these CONSTANT calls for deleting articles that should obviously be included, it's beyond tiresome. Wjfox2005 (talk) 09:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Daniel Dotzauer

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Non-notable figure skater; no senior-level international medal placements. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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- Delete Can't find SIGCOV for this one.Canary757 (talk) 07:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:NSKATE) criteria. No medals won in senior events. No sources which meet WP:V guidelines. QEnigma talk 09:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wordhunt

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Lack of notability Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 03:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. As I wrote on the talk page while you were writing this, there is a lot of coverage of the Wordhunt to be found in Proquest. I added several reliable sources (Guardian, Scotsman, Chronicle of Higher Education), and the Boston Globe was already cited in the article, but there are also articles in Proquest in The Times (several), The Observer, Belfast Telegraph, Derby Evening Telegraph, Daily Post and even The Hindustan Times and Pittsburgh Post - Gazette. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:29, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Niko Ulanovsky

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Non-notable figure skater; no senior-level international medal placements. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:NSKATE) criteria. No medals won in senior events. No sources which meet WP:V guidelines. QEnigma talk 09:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per QEnigma.Canary757 (talk) 12:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vladyslav Shkolnyi

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Similar to several other players from this team, and created by the same user, nothing I can find, in English or Ukrainian, comes close to satisfying WP:SIGCOV standards. Anwegmann (talk) 03:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Artur Bybik

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Similar to two other player articles recently nominated, nothing I can find on this player, in English or Ukrainian, comes close to WP:SIGCOV. In like manner, the references in article fall well short of that standard. Anwegmann (talk) 03:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Vitaliy Mentey

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Searching in Ukrainian is somewhat difficult, but after several searches in English and Ukrainian, I have found nothing on this player that approaches WP:SIGCOV. None of the references in the articles meet the standard, either. Curious to see what others find. As far as I can tell, this article reaches level of an AfD discussion. Anwegmann (talk) 02:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Flynn Field

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Redirect to Dakota State Trojans. No evidence of notability for this NAIA-level baseball field. JTtheOG (talk) 02:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Dakota State Trojans as per above. No WP:SIGCOV to maintain as a separate article. QEnigma talk 08:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Viktoria Vasilieva

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Non-notable figure skater; no senior-level medal placements. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep she has participated in many high-level regional competitions, and has earned metals. Article needs more sources which can be easily done. Marleeashton (talk) 02:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All medals were junior-level, none of which qualify as notable per WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe that the intention of these guidelines were to be overly prescriptive. I see you have nominated many gymnast articles, while they don't meet the 'more likely to receive coverage' point they should be judged individually on their merits, not mass removed because they're less likely to receive coverage. Marleeashton (talk) 08:29, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Irving Scott

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Non-notable magician. No sigcov provided for this story-like article to distinguish it from a hoax. Jdcooper (talk) 01:25, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Delete References are just random archived message board postings. Unable to find any coverage. Marleeashton (talk) 07:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Dick Tracy villains

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This is a mostly unsourced spin off from List of Dick Tracy characters. Wikipedia implores us to not immediately split articles if the new article would meet neither the general notability criteria nor the specific notability criteria for their topic. Wikipedia also implores us not to create endless splits of similar articles without sources when those topics can be covered together in a single article. The target article is also missing sources but at least provides a valid redirect target. Jontesta (talk) 18:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to List of Dick Tracy characters, but do not delete. The Dick Tracy franchise is known for the oddities of the villains created for it. See, e.g., CBR, "10 Ugliest Dick Tracy Villains". BD2412 T 01:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC) BD2412 T 01:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per BD2412. Agree that there is mergeable content, and that this would be the most appropriate outcome, placing information in a better and more accessible context for the reader. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Democrates

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I humbly submit that this article may safely be either taken down, merged, or changed to a redirect. Its principal claim to notability, I believe, is the occasional misattribution of Democritus’s sayings or likeness to one Democrates.

With regard to the former, according to our article on Democritus, Diels and Kranz attribute these sayings to Democritus, and this article repeats this attribution. As for the likeness, it can hardly be denied that the bust in the picture is stamped “Democrates,” and, indeed, the Wedgwood Museum’s website seems to list the very piece here under that name; that Museum’s website is hardly informative. Now, the Metropolitan Museum of Art has a similar piece also stamped “Democrates” but clearly catalogued as “Democritus.” Did someone at the Wedgwood company repeatedly make the same mistake? This hardly seems unlikely to me, but what say my fellow editors?

I do confess that the likeness is unlike some of those we have for Democritus, as that in the Villa of the Papyri, but it is hardly unlike his representation in numerous other portraits. Indeed, the painting by Coypel, loath as we may be to accept the authenticity of so modern a vision, seems based on an old tradition; a cursory search will, I believe, at worst, reveal to anyone conflicting traditions of his appearance with, nonetheless, a bias towards that seen in the Wedgwood bust. A worker at the company might have repeatedly made the mistake of labeling the likeness "Democrates", but did Coypel, who predates it, mistake with "Démocrite"? And many other artists in the tradition of the “laughing” or “smiling philosopher”?

That he was the founder of the basic concepts of democracy is obvious nonsense. (Among other consideration, were he a contemporary of Apollonius of Tyana, he would have lived centuries after the heyday of Athenian democracy!)

Mind you, Democrates is not an invalid Greek name. There is Democrates of Aphidna, and it is also attested to in, e.g., this article about Euripides, this work of the theologian Sepulveda, and, as I gather, a genus of beetles. Indeed, Livy apparently states that a Democrates led the Tarentines at the Battle of Sapriportis, but, although the name on that article links to the page about the supposed philosopher, their biographies could hardly agree. Furthermore, the name appears on the list of Druze prophets on this page, but I can find no citations to that effect. (This last, in particular, might make me suspect a hoax, though I make no such formal accusation here!)

Even if the Democrates article gave dates significantly after the laughing philosopher, they would not account for the difference in dates between the Tarentine commander and the Druze prophet, and, even if they did, they would not account for the article’s lack of biographical detail, unless a military command and posthumous religious veneration do not qualify as notable!

But, forgive me: I understand that those links need not really enter into the argument; they were, no doubt, added in good faith, or, at least, the one from the Tarentine commander to the supposed philosopher was.

Also, regarding biographical detail, the noted epistle of Apollonius seems to me suspect as a citation, for, as we have said, Democrates is a genuine Greek name, and the mere existence of an Apollonian contemporary by that name hardly justifies the rest of the article. (Also, in fact, it is epistle 96, not 88, but that may be beside the point!)

What harm would be done by noting more fully the occasional attributions to Democrates on Democritus’s article and changing Democrates’s to a redirect to Democritus? Or perhaps a disambiguation page could disambiguate things: a link to Democrates of Ephidna, a link to Sepulveda, a link to and a note on Democritus, and a note about the military commander. Pleased to take further part in the debate but better able to leave the question to more sage considerations than my own, I am sincerely yours, Twozenhauer (talk) 00:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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What about the Golden Sentences/ Golden Maxims of Democrates? This seems to be attributed to him even if nothing else is? I think the disputed historicity is clearly displayed in the article, so as it stands I am happy to keep, maybe with more commentary on historicity?Spiralwidget (talk) 15:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moliere Dimanche

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This is a copy of Draft:Moe Dimanche which the creator of both articles, User:NovembersHeartbeat, submitted to Articles for Creation back in September. This user has now made a new article, Moliere Dimanche, to bypass the AfC process, and redirected Moe Dimanche to lead back to this article. I have suspicions about WP:COI that I have expressed on NovembersHeartbeat's talk page (Dimanche is running to be Governor of Florida, which provides a clear motivation). NovembersHeartbeat also created Dimanche v. Brown for a legal case Dimanche was prominent within, and I am now also considering this for deletion. I would like some external advice on whether any of these articles pass WP:GNG as I am not well versed on American legal stuff like this. Spiralwidget (talk) 14:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moliere Dimanche

Thank you for initiating this discussion. I would like to address some concerns raised in the nomination statement:

1. Vandalism: My first concern is about the user Spiralwidget repeatedly vandalizing this particular subject. His primary contribution to the Moe Dimanche draft was that the referenced article did not say "Shakespeare" in it. In a discussion with Tim Gilmore, the article highlighted a conversation about a schoolteacher named Mrs. Callahan, who Dimanche remembered because of a special focus on Julis Caesar. Here at Wikipedia,it is common knowledge that Julius Caesar (play) was written by Shakespeare. To vandalize the page without so much as referencing this wikipedia article does harm to editors who genuinely seek to expand knowledge. He didn't make any constructive edits, and even admitted he didn't know much about art notability, and even here he states he doesn't know much about "American legal stuff like this". If he is not knowledgeable on these issues, why is he so invested in having these pages deleted? He even states that he wants to delete a law page that "Dimanche was prominent" in. If Dimanche was "prominent" in the law, what is the reason? My view is that it is outright vandalism. Wikipedia has already determined that the Prison Litigation Reform Act and multiple PLRA case laws are related to the subject matter, so it isn't even clear what he takes issue with regarding the substance. Admins should take note of how courts all across this country have cited that law in resolving 178 cases.^[1] What on earth makes this user believe that is something that should be deleted? All of us are bound by the law, and if a law sets precedent and our highest courts have used it as a corner stone to settle other laws that will bind us, Wikipedia must ask whether or not SpiralWidget is actually doing harm to the platform by vandalizing pages spreading this king of knowledge.

My contributions to Wikipedia have been neutral, informative, and edited by Admins. I like editing on Wikipedia because I like spreading knowledge. My contributions include the Federal Magistrates Act, the JUDGES Act, and I'm currently putting together a page on the concept of Unsettled Law. These are topics that serve public interest and make people wiser, and why people rely on wikipedia more than any other source of enlightenment. This user SpiralWidget on the other hand has had his pages deleted because he abandoned them for 6 months. I take the spread of knowledge seriously, and I am grateful for the opportunity to do so.

Redirects and Related Articles: The user SpiralWidget says he has conflict of interest concerns, which were addressed when he first started vandalizing the page Moe Dimanche. I think his primary reason for nominating the article for deletion is because it is a duplicate page. However, the wikipedia deletion policy specifically says

"If two pages are duplicates or otherwise redundant, one should be merged and redirected to the other, using the most common, or more general page name. This does not require process or formal debate beforehand."

But SpiralWidget moved the redirect page anyway because he wanted a formal discussion. Again, this is vandalism. The redirect Moe Dimanche was created to aid navigation for users searching under this common nickname. As for Dimanche v. Brown, it is a separate topic with its own independent notability, as demonstrated by coverage in legal publications and its significance in state-level jurisprudence. These articles serve distinct purposes and are appropriately created.

2. Conflict of Interest: I have no personal or professional connection to Moliere Dimanche. The article was written to document a notable public figure in compliance with Wikipedia’s WP:COI and WP:NPOV guidelines. This was already explained to SpiralWidget, even though I do not owe him an explanation. I came across Mr. Dimanche's YouTube videos after a judge in my city reopened a death investigation into a death of an inmate at a local prison. The only videos I could find on that inmate were done by Mr. Dimanche's Youtube channel and I learned more about him and asked why there wasn't a wikipedia page about him. So I decided to do it, as I began to follow what was going on with him.

I welcome further discussion on how to improve the article and ensure compliance with Wikipedia's policies. I hope my contributions to Wikipedia demonstrate how serious I am about expanding knowledge in the areas of law and civil rights. I hope to help those looking to navigating complex legal theories and civil rights. NovembersHeartbeat (talk) 16:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dimanche v. Brown

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Non-notable, WP:ROTM legal case that is principally created to add credence to Moliere Dimanche (see also: WP:Articles for deletion/Moliere Dimanche and User talk:NovembersHeartbeat)Spiralwidget (talk) 15:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moliere Dimanche

Thank you for initiating this discussion. I would like to address some concerns raised in the nomination statement:

1. Vandalism: This user Spiralwidget has repeatedly vandalized this topic. In his nomination for deletion of the page for Moe Dimanche he states that Dimanche is "prominent" in the case law, and then states that he doesn't know much about "American legal stuff", but projects himself as an expert on legal case notability here. This is vandalism, and in American jurisprudence, Dimanche v. Brown has been cited in 178 new opinions be United States judges. That means this case law helped our highest courts establish new case law, and will continue to do so forever. Virtually every prominent legal publication cites the law for setting precedent, and the 178 citations is just from judges rendering opinions. That doesn't count the many more times litigants have used the citation to protect there positions in our district courts, our appellate courts, and in the Supreme Court of the United States. This is an actual law, and has been one since 2015.

I welcome further discussion on how to improve the article and ensure compliance with Wikipedia's policies. I hope my contributions to Wikipedia demonstrate how serious I am about expanding knowledge in the areas of law and civil rights. I hope to help those looking to navigating complex legal theories and civil rights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NovembersHeartbeat (talk • contribs) 16:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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